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rajeshkumar_v
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:28 am    Post subject: MSV-Vaali combination Reply with quote

We've talked about Masters songs in various threads written by Various lyricists.
This thread is to talk about Master's songs with veteran Vaali.

Vaali never fails to credit MSV for his success. Here is a small attempt to cpature all the songs by these 2 legends.

I'm starting the topic with a great female duet

"Kadavul thandha irumalargal" from Iru malargal by P.Suseela & L.R.Eswari.

During 50's female duet was very rare. It was done whenever there is Competition (be it dance/song etc) and not on a usual basis

But Master's creativity and ofcourse Directors creatitivity brought out many female duets by PS & LRE. These 2 churned out many many duets and all are classic duets and ever lingers in our mind.

"Kadavul thandha Iru malargal" very APT Situational song

Sivaji's lover Padmini is back as his daughter's teacher and meets with his wife K.R.Vijaya. KRV doesnt know the truth and there comes the song

Padmini sings about how she came in his life while KRV sings how she was given life .. See how vaali handles both. I'm impressed very much by the LRE portion.

"alaiyil mithantha malar kandu
athan mEl karuNai manam koNdu
thalaiyil iRaivan sUdik koNdAn
thAnE adhanai sErththuk koNdAn
kuzalil sUdiya oru malarum
kOvil sErntha oru malarum
iraNdum vAzvil perumai peRum
idhayam enRum amaidhi peRum"

Watch and listen to this MSV-VAALI MAGIC





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8hcWU5_kC8
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

excellant pick rajesh
mellodious LRE teams with PS to give this memorable innings under shrewdest caption MSV.
you highlighted the best part of the innings

thanks fr giving the link , which has great songs esp naalai mudal kudikkamaaten .sumaithangi sainthaal , sollavo
thanks once again
wregds
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rajesh,

A very good topic Very Happy and a nice song to start with too !

I think Valee was the sole lyricist for Iru malargal. Am I right ?

Let me write on gems of MSV-Valee .
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

balaji
thanks for your kind words
yes Vaali was the sole lyric writer for irumalargal

sure you are a veteran in these topics. please do write.

My next pick is on the way:Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:04 am    Post subject: MSV-Vaali combination-2 Reply with quote

Naan kaatru vaanga ponen from kalangarai vilakkam.

MGR-Vaali-MSV a trio which had more success. So let's talk about a best song from this trio.

Kalangarai Vilakkam directed by K.Shankar is an album to cherish. All Variety in one movie. MEllisai Mannargal gave a blast. Variety did not stop with the songs but with the lyricists as well.

Paavendhar Bharathidasan's Sange Muzhangu depcited the Tamil culture and it's credibility

Kannadasan's Ennai Marandhathen thendrale is just cant get better and what a rendition by Isaiyarasi.

the young assistant of Kannadasan Panju Arunachalam got his first song in this album and what a class was the song. Simple lyrics by Panju(following KD in every line) and PS,TMS's amazing rendition made Pon ezhil poothadhu pudhuvaanil a memorable song tilldate.

and here comes Vaali with his vibrant entry saying i am no less to others
"Naan kaatru vaanga ponen oru kavithai vaangi vandhen "

Very romantic song on the best romantic pair on screen
MGR-Sarojadevi


நான் காற்று வாங்கப் போனேன்
ஒரு கவிதை வாங்கி வந்தேன்
அதைக் கேட்டு வாங்கிப் போனாள்
அந்தக் கன்னி என்ன ஆனாள்
(நான்..)

நடை பழகும்போது தென்றல்
விடை சொல்லிக்கொண்டு போகும்
நடை பழகும்போது தென்றல்
விடை சொல்லிக்கொண்டு போகும்
அந்த அழகு ஒன்று போதும்
நெஞ்சை அள்ளிக் கொண்டு போகும்
அதைக் கேட்டு வாங்கிப் போனாள்
அந்தக் கன்னி என்ன ஆனாள்
(நான்..)

நல்ல நிலவு தூங்கும் நேரம்
அவள் நினைவு தூங்கவில்லை
நல்ல நிலவு தூங்கும் நேரம்
அவள் நினைவு தூங்கவில்லை
கொஞ்சம் விலகி நின்ற போதும்
என் இதயம் தாங்கவில்லை
அதைக் கேட்டு வாங்கிப் போனாள்
அந்தக் கன்னி என்ன ஆனாள்
(நான்..)

என் உள்ளம் என்ற ஊஞ்சல்
அவள் உலவுகின்ற மேடை
என் உள்ள என்ற ஊஞ்சல்
அவள் உலவுகின்ற மேடை
என் பார்வை நீந்தும் இடமோ
அவள் பருவம் என்ற ஓடை
அதைக் கேட்டு வாங்கிப் போனாள்
அந்தக் கன்னி என்ன ஆனாள்
(நான்..)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bPQS0qJ9kg
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:18 pm    Post subject: songs composed Reply with quote

Dear Mr.Rajeshkumar,
Way back in 1965, when TFM lovers were keeping fingers crossed as to the individual merits of MSV and TKR,both had a brief lull [post separation] making the wait more agonizing. Pat came the answer through 'kalangarai viLakkam' where MSV emphatically reiterated his supremacy putting to rest all scope for any further debate. Thank you for your write up on the movie where you have hinted at 'mannargaL' where the lone 'mannar' figured.
Thank you Warm regards K.Raman Madurai
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Professor,

yes it was Mannar . my bad typo...
Thanks for pointing it out
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:19 am    Post subject: MSV vaali combination Reply with quote

The combination has given innumerable memorable songs. Vaali knows MSV requirements and MSV is aware that vaali can write/revise the wordings as he(MSV) want to. Their perfect understanding and respect one on the other is one of the the main reason songs of this combination are outstanding and has stood the test of time.

Take any song from the film Padagotti - they were excellently written and composed brilliantly. Likewise there are lot many. If I am not wrong all the songs of this film was written by Vaali.

I feel appropriate to add in connection with the topic an information that I read long back in Filmfare magazine about Shankar Jaikishan duo of Hindi film music. Sailendra and Hasrath Jaipuri wrote most songs for this music directors. In almost all the films they scored music this writer combination had worked.They had an some sort of agreement - romance related songs by Hasrat and serious/pathos by Sailendra. But in between Hasrat also wrote a few pathos which became super duper hit (example - Thum mujhe bula na paovoge from the film Pagla kahina ka) Sailendra was so pleased that he even suggested Hasrat can be given a free hand. This was agreed by SJ. Thus due respect and perfect understanding between the Music director and song writer not only paves way for good friendship but also shows in their creations.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear friends,
To add to the above comments, there were even incidents when the duo (Shankar-Jaikishen) shared the lyricists too to suit the situation. Of which, Jaikishen was said to have been influenced by our MM and probably included those strains in his compositions or orchestra. But, to come back to the original discussion, the comparison to MM-Vaali is appropriate.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is about to resume... Await eagerly...
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