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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every topic has too much of rare and unknown informations.

Very interesting to read.

Good work by all.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: It was Ganesh Reply with quote

Dear Saradha,

Most of the information that I am sharing with you are all from authentic sources as I am in continuous touch with some of the orchestra members of MSV. In fact my next list to be posted on the site would be a comprehensive list of MSV's orchestra and these are the infos that I collect personally meeting all these players of yesteryears. Please do not have any worry about the genuinity of these infos.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Vaidy

I too have the same doubt of Saradha's . When the duo Shankar Ganesh became independant , how Ganesh could play bangoos for Mellisai Mannar ?

If its still yes, its as a respect for MSV as a guru and also shows that Ganesh was the king of bangoos during that period.

One small digression : Neeya had a scintillating song Naan kattil mele kanden vennila ... which has thunderous bangoos ( may be triple congo )
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: MSV's Orchestra. Reply with quote

Dear Vaidy,

I am eagerly looking forward to your posting on the Master's Orchestra.

I read your article "My Music Man MSV - Part III". I entirely vouch the views expressed by you. In fact, you have nicely reflected the feelings of all MSV Fans. As Ram has correctly put it, it is a "Sema Nethi Adi". There is a proverb "Adikka Adikka Ammik Kallum Nagarum". Aanaal, Panathaal Adithaalozhiya namma ooru arasiyalvaadhigalai nagartha mudiyathu.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:16 pm    Post subject: CONGRATS ON YOUR CENTURY. Reply with quote

Dear Vaidy,

Sorry, just now only I noticed the number of postings below your name. I am very happy that you have completed a CENTURY. Hearty Congrats! I think you were a bit cautious, as you were approaching your Century. Now that you have completed it, I am sure you will start your "slog" and it will rain 4s and 6s, i.e. many postings in quick succession.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Special Celebrations for our Vaidy in the "Rank and Promotions" section under "The Ardent....100" thread!!! Please post your messages there for our Vaidy!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:07 pm    Post subject: Re: MGR and MSV Reply with quote

S.Balaji wrote:
I suggest we can discuss / analyze songs of Makkal Thilagam MGR composed by MSV here :D


There is one great song sung by TMS for MGR which is not that frequently aired in TV or Radio. "Ayiram Kannuku Virundhagam, Un Azhagukku oruvan thunai varuvan...oh oh oh oh oh ATHU NAN ALLA, ATHU NAN ALLA". All of you MSVians would have definitely heard this song. There is a P.Susheela version of this song too in that film. But the TMS version composed keeping in my mind MGR, was a great majestic piece. You can visualise MGR when you hear TMS. Great Song, indeed.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Vaidy,

One more request to you & Ram

IMHO, Mellisai Mannar's songs for MGR somehow are out of the world ( not that other songs are mortal ) . MGR I heard had pushed MSV to the brink & had stretched his reserves to the max.

Can you pl have a session with MSV & get us how MGR used to shortlist / finalize the tunes .

MSV once mentioned NAAN SODHANAI ENDRU NINAITHADHU IPPODHU ELLAM SADHANAIYAGA IRUKIRADHU Very Happy ( refering his association with MGR ) .
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Re: MSV's Orchestra. Reply with quote

Venugopalan Soundararajan wrote:

There is a proverb "Adikka Adikka Ammik Kallum Nagarum". Aanaal, Panathaal Adithaalozhiya namma ooru arasiyalvaadhigalai nagartha mudiyathu.


Well said... A fact, very humorously put-forth !!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr S.Balaji

M.G.R.used Viswanathan for his growth in cinema and politics by the songs.

But he did not helped him in any way.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: MGR and MSV Reply with quote

P. Sankar wrote:
S.Balaji wrote:
I suggest we can discuss / analyze songs of Makkal Thilagam MGR composed by MSV here Very Happy


There is one great song sung by TMS for MGR which is not that
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Ayiram Kannuku Virundhagam, Un
frequently aired in TV or Radio. " Azhagukku oruvan thunai varuvan...oh oh oh oh oh ATHU NAN ALLA, ATHU NAN ALLA". All of you MSVians would have definitely heard this song. There is a P.Susheela version of this song too in that film. But the TMS version composed keeping in my mind MGR, was a great majestic piece. You can visualise MGR when you hear TMS. Great Song, indeed.


THIS SONG IS FROM ORU THAI MAKKAL.

ANOTHER GOOD PIECE IS KANNAN ENTHAN KADHALAN

SANKARANARAYANAN
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Paaduvor paadinal aadathondrum from Kannan en kadhalan Reply with quote

The late 60s and early 70s witnessed some incredible music from Mellisai Champion…….

Once again it’s the glorious MGR- MSV combination ….for

KANNAN EN KAADHALAN

I restrict myself to the songs only as MGR was ahead of times on picturisation ( Makkal Thilagam did wonders despite the not so advanced stages of cinematography )…probably to overcome his limitations as an actor ( say like Shivaji ) he focused on other finer aspects of making a movie and established himself as a model for future generation. ….sheer survival instinct must have made MGR successful in life …after all when he became a dominant hero, he was already in his late 30s !

The greatness of the 2 legendary personalities MSV and IR stems from the fact that they studied the whole storyline , at times guide the Director as to how and when a song can be positioned so that it will have maximum impact which ultimately will contribute to the overall success of the movie…..such was their professional commitment ….there were instances where both had made mind boggling changes at the last minute to make a tune or a BGM more meaningful …..

There is a reason for highlighting this fact as, in this movie too , a song was needed to PROVOKE and ENTHUSE A HANDICAPPED PERSON TO STAND UP AND DANCE ….

How to make one handicapped character cheerful and stand up , dance ??

The tune, the rhythm and the background music should be so scintillating that it automatically triggers passion and enthusiasm ……..

Here comes a brilliant, imaginative composition from the LITTLE MASTER OF MELODY
PAADUVOR PAADINAAL AADA THONDRUM….True ….. when TMS is the singer , the pulling power of his voice will make even someone down physiologically and psychologically, to get thrilled and stand up to dance !

And when it gets associated with stalwarts like Mellisai mannar, Makkal thilagam ….its something special…….

Its no wonder that JJ will start dancing …. At times twist dance also …..

The situation ….. MGR , in a birthday party, in suit , sitting proudly with a piano and starts …….

TMS starts with somewhat like a virutham…slowly singing Paaduvor paadinaal ( a gentle piano background )

After a brief pause , there will be splendid combination of Piano and violin with tabla and drums and bangoos once again ! ( with just these support instruments MSV created a magic those days ) finally with clapping…..

There will be parallel shots showing a cheerful MGR, the party members , JJ’s foot , trying to control but gradually getting tempted by the pull of the song’s rhythm, shaking of head acknowledging the splendid rhythm and finally will storm in to dance…..

Paaduvor paadinaal aadathondrum…..

The interludes before the charanam …..paatil suvaiyirundhaal aatam thaanay varum…..its a virtual war between flute , piano, violin, tabla again !

One gets tempted to rewind several times when TMS reaches the stage ….Thannai marandhadhu kandu , thulli ezundhadhu vandu…..nooladarndha idai dhaan neliya…nooru kodi vindhai puriya…….nooru kodi vindhai puriya……. A big pause …….and TMS resumes again with a clapping

The tune, the rhythm pattern will all be exact match for the situation…. MG trying to enthuse cheer and audio delight …. will make everyone dance automatically

Also, as the scene warranted Makkal thilagam to sit and play Piano, he was totally restricted from making his routine mannerisms…..Kayyayum kaalayum asaikaamal MGR illai ! but as if he is tied to the instrument, MG will respond to the song ……at times using one hand to run through the piano while using the other hand for demonstrating his expressions ! quite a fascinating character Makkal thilagam is !

The same song will get repeated and this time the scenario will be totally different as Vanishree will be tempted to stand up and dance…..

SIRITHAAL THANGA PADHUMAI…adada adada enna pudhumai…..koduthen endhan manadhai ……. A song which will speak volumes of MSV melody…. Its another gem of a duet from PS – TMS…..This is a typical Makkal thilagam song , loaded with melody….this type of song , one can hear quite regularly in his movies….few examples are Unnai paarthu kondirundhaal paatu varum, Chinnavalai mugam sivandhavalai….

MINIMINAY KANMANIYAY KONDAVALAY ENNIDAMAY…… a song with a difference….rhythm pattern will be different …..TMS this time with LRE …its one of the best of LRE

One reason why MSV songs are still being cherished now , could be that of his long association with Makkal thilagam…..who must have made MSV work overtime and stretch to the maximum so that the best output comes….the more you ignite a gold and more will be its shine …..

I have heard that some of MSV - MGR’s rejected tunes were used for other movies and they also became hits later !

MSV's melodies have no boundaries !

How could he give so many melodies with so much consistency !!

I continue to wonder the enchanting melodies from the Little Master of tamil film music
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear All,

May I include some of the solo songs which I presume was inadvertently left out by the writer?

1. Panathottam - Kurangu varum thottamadi
2. Padagotti - Kalyana ponnu
3. Ayirathil Oruvan - Atho antha paravai
4. Kalangarai Vilakkan - Pallavan pallavi
5. Naan Aanayittal - Nalla velai
6. Kaavalkaaran - Kathu koduthu kaeten
7. Sangey Muzhangu - Pombalai sirichaa pochi
8. Oru Thaai Makkal - Ayiram kannuku
9. Ninaithathe Mudippavan - Thaaney
10. Urimai Kural - Netru poothachu

Songs 'Kalyana ponnu' and 'Pallavan pallavi' can be regarded as out of the norm songs I suppose especially the former where TMS tries nasal singing for MGR- an idea put forward by MSV.

There is a great fast paced song named 'Ingu nalla irukkunum ellorum' in 'Oru Thaai Makkal' sung by TMS & PS (MGR's last black & white movie). Unfortunately this song has been banned in Radio Malaysia as it contains socialist ideologies. How about in Chennai?

R. Mahendra Raj
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

raj_k65 wrote:
There is a great fast paced song named 'Ingu nalla irukkunum ellorum' in 'Oru Thaai Makkal' sung by TMS & PS (MGR's last black & white movie).


m.g.r.'s last black & white movie was "annamitta kai".
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great write up by our Balaji (as usual) !!!

And welcome Mr.Raj to this Elite "MSV Club".

MSVTimes awaits your fullest participation.
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