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Ram
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I missed your comment in my write-up!

And thanks for the visual, I'm seeing it after a very very long time!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

வினாதா

அவள் மெல்ல சிரித்தாள் என்ற பாடலை பற்றி எப்பொழுது
நினைப்பீர்கள் ? என்ன ஒரு கற்பனை செய்யமுடியாத மெலடி ! Smile ஒரு மென்மையான ரிதம் கிடார் துணைபுரியுமே துவக்கத்திலிருந்து


பி.பி.எஸ். பற்றி குறிப்பிட்டீர்களே ? என் உங்களுக்கு
காற்று வந்தால் தலை சாயும் நாணல் பற்றி ஒன்றும் எழுதவில்லையே
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AVAL SIRITHAAL... Sweet composition.

My favorite song along with Thalai vaari poo choodi unnai..., Gangai karai.... etc.. for my elementary school dances.

P.B.Sreenivos, I run around listen to him from Roja malarey... to everybody's favorite thaththuva song, CLASSIC Mayakkamaa ......!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watched Mohanlalís Chitram . There is a beautiful Ď Nagumo í sung by Srikumar ! Is there any Aberi set by MSV ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

poo maalaiyil ... is Abheri
His malarndhum malaraadha... is bhimpalasi.

Remember Lover Boy's delight pallava naattu raaja kumarikku... too abheri! Movie name yennavo, I have that song.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HI VINATHA,

FOR ME, PALLAVA NAATTU RAJAKUMARIKKU SOUNDS LIKE FALLING ON KARNATAKA DEVAGANDHARI SIDE MORE THAN ABHERI.MAY BE ,AS REPEATEDLY STRESSED ,IN CINE MUSIC SUCH STRICT DELINEATIONS CANNOT BE MADE,PARTICULARLY WITH THE MASTERS GEMS.

AINTHU ADI KULLARIN MEDHAMAIYAI ENDHA "SCALE" I KONDU ALAKKA
MUDIYUM?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BUT IS "PALLAVANAATTU" BY MSV? FORUMNERS CONFIRM


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karnataka Devagandhari is Dikshitar tradition ~ Carnatic Abheri rt!
Panchaashat peeta rupini maam.....
Kaayaarohanesam ..... I know these two krithies. Smile
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Song: pallava nAttu
Film: Ival Oru Seethai
Music: V.Kumar
Singer: S.P.Balasubramanyam
Lyrics: ?
Year: 1978
thanks to Neel at tfmpage-pow. I have listened to his pow, commented in his thread but details kaana pochu from my thoughts... Smile Composition stays with me for yrs from my childhood! Very Happy
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thanks to our conversations on Kaatrukkenna veli...., I watched AVARGAL (konjam dhaan parthuyerukken..) again after two decades + amazing bgms from Shri.MSV.
He has used nanda nandana.... Meera bhajan in the scene Rajini's mom comes to Sujatha's flat, helps her with chores at the very first time. Captivated by his flute passages.. Avargal will entertain me this week Smile
Vinatha.
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s.r.sankaranarayanan
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HI VINATHA,

YOUR CLASSIFICATION OF KARNATAKA DEVAGANDHARI AS "DIKSHITHAR TRADITION" IS PROBABLY THE CLOSESEST DESCRIPTION POSSIBLE. IT DOESNT LOOK TO COME FROM HINDUSTAANI BECAUSE TREATISES ON HINDUSTAANI OFTEN REFER THIS TO ABHERI AS RAAG ABHIR WHICH HAS COME TO HINDUSTAANI TRADITION FROM SOUTH.THIS IS OFTEN REFERRED AS OBSCURE RAAGA WHICH DOESNT FIT INTO ANY OF TEN THATS OF HINDUSTAANI SYSTEM.

MY LITTLE HUNCH ON ABHERI IS IT HAS STRONG OVERTONES OF PERSIAN MUSIC ,SO IT SHOULD HAVE COME TO US FROM PERSIA.BUT HOW COME IT IS REFERRED AS COMINGFROM SOUTH TO HINDUSTAANI IS A MYSTERY,WHICH NEEDS TO BE EXPLORED BY MUSICOLOGISTS.

SOME OF THE NUMBERS IN ABHERI WHICH HAVE BEEN POWERFULLY COMPOSED BY IR ARE "MAALAYIL YAARO MALARODU PESA" FROM "KSHATRIYAN" AND " VAA PONMAYILE".( MSVIANS MANNIKKAVUM)

YAEH,YAEH,IT IS DIKSHITHAR VAZHI RAAGAM WHICH YOU HV WONDERFULLY PINPOINTED AS DIKSHIDAR TRADITION.

THANK YOU,

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Vatsan
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:24 pm    Post subject: Abheri Reply with quote

Pallava nAttu .....is by V Kumar indeed.
SRS....mAlayil is in Sudhha Dhanyasi I think. vA ponmayilE is a great song indeed.....beautifully rendered by Balu Gunds. IR had a great leaning towards SD....more than he had for Abheri. One cannot forget G Ramanathan's kaNNan mana nilayai thangamE thangam.....in Abheri.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:28 pm    Post subject: Abhs Reply with quote

I thought Abheri was the same as Bhimpalasi, atleast I heard Mandolin Srinivas saying that.

Composers from Kerala, Karnataka and Andhra have shown great inclination to score in Abheri (as I understand it to be). Most of Vijaya Bhaskar's works in Tamil show traces of Abheri more often that not. So was it for Rajan Nagendra and GK Venkatesh as well. V Dakshinamurthy has several Abheris in Malayalam.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carnatic Abheri is Hindustani bhimpalasi indeed. Please don't forget poovey poochooda vaa.... & chinnanchiru vayadhil ... Meendum kokila for abheri from IR.

Vellai thamarai poovelyeruppaal....Bhimpalasi.
Manamey kanamum maravaadhey jagadheesan malar padhamey... Papanasam sivan krithi, I have heard in bhimpalasi.
Vasantha kaala kolangal.....IR, Kismut se tum hum ko mile...Pukar of ARR, Naino mein badra.....Mera saaya all in this raga.
Vinatha.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:27 pm    Post subject: Bhims Reply with quote

Vinatha...Oops CPP ithu enna intha nErathhila posting ? neenga East Coast-a? West Coast-a?
Thanks for the clarification on Abheri - Bhimpalasi. nainO mein ..... Madan Mohan ippadi Pendyala kittE irunthu lavatti irukka vENdAm....anyways, a heart wrenching number.

Could anybody post links for 'nAnAdinAl...oru vagai bOthayO' from maNippayal please.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naino mein... I remember you mentioned about it at Dhool recently.
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CPP lives in her loverís musical heart. Smile
Vinatha is haunting you from San Jose, CA (West Coast, USA) Very Happy
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Now for the pattu this lunch hr....

Melodious , relaxed tune, casual singing by Shri.TMS.
Compositionís calm whistling with an artistic weepy, sympathetic violin passage (Balaiya comes out of Jail) LOVELY!

Vandha naal mudhal....

http://www.divshare.com/download/4808549-ef3

Paava Manippu... Deeply emotional musical album lives as long as good music lives!

love, Vinatha.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just have to finish my day with that song tonight.....My mind craves for that sense of calmness..


Thanks for sharing your UNIQUE heart & Soul!

Health & Happiness to you & your family..


There are so many things to worry about, that sometimes some of us forget to Live. You with your wonderful compositions help us to close our eyes and realize how sweet the life can be!

No words can express our gratitude & excitement we feel for your music and your commitment to ONLY the very highest standards in music.

Birthday wishes & my namaskarams to you, Shri.MSV!


Love, Vinatha!
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