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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:10 am    Post subject: 'ThEdi varum Deiva sugam' Reply with quote

Dear Mr.Ramki,
Nice to see you after a cognizable gap and Welcome with a request for postings. Hope it is just in place.

Dear Friends,
Though our friends have taken the thread to other realms of instruments, my mind still wades through the thought of exceptionally precise percussion - not found anywhere except from MM's stable.
For that, my present pick is the song "thEdi varum Deivasugam" another TMS PS MESMERISM spun out by MSV.

If 'yar andha nilavu' brought out Cliff Richard in TMS, this song reemphasizes the brilliant 'playing down' potential of TMS. Quite a number of friends then, refused to believe that it was TMS.

Also, PS kept herself a perfect foil to TMS and MSV who knows his game and has no bounds in his desire, has crafted a brilliant piece in this song; yes, a sedate song with percussion from Drums!

What a King and kind of player on Drums was Noel Grant![HE WAS NOVEL, GRAND] The song opens by a plain utterance -'thedi varum' slightly undulate suggestive of 'singing'. Soon enough Drum makes a polite but majestic entry with feather touch strokes.

All through the song, the tune takes pacy /slow flow to emphasize the mood. This song also has showcased Drums -flute association in a marvellous ensemble where neither dominates but gracefully embraces the other.

The final repeat of the pallavi is an instrumental torrent of a final assault where the drum is so pacy and rapid suggesting some machine at work; but the play stays absolutely on the dot in terms of timing and decibel.

It is indeed a 'deiva sugam ' to hear the voices, orchestration blended into a beauty by Shri.MSV.
Thanks for the opportunity.
Warm regards K.Raman Madurai.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:12 pm    Post subject: Resp. Reply with quote

Ramki, thanks !!!!

Since we are in the process of bringing to notice usage of Sitar beyond conventions, here goes...."oru tharam orE tharam" from "sumathi en sundari"....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbcV4_Fzm58

I have purposely provided the link so that all of us can savour the prelude in its entirety. The prelude can be broken into three parts, the violin with spurts of piccolo towards the tail end of the violin phrases, a mix of accordian and picolo winding down and then the glorious Hawain Guitar stretch. Since in this thread we are looking at almost unobtrusive pieces of Sitar (and other instruments) as well, please check out the almost unheard and unheard of sitar pieces underlining each of the Hawaiin Guitar phrases !!! To me the most deliciously enticing short but sweet piece on the Sitar comes after TMS finishes the pallavi and it romantically cajoles P Susheela into starting "iruvarukkum ...." a MSV-esque anu pallavi that leaves you yearning for more !!! That is the man's trick, giving you only a fleeting glimpse of these precious little lovely packets thereby keeping you craving for more.....and that would call for a repeat listening Smile How each of this man's songs has the philosophy of the entire movie squeezed into it !!! A movie shot mostly in a hill station, a romantic comedy of sorts where lightheartedness pervades most part of the movie and each of the songs in the movie glows with the sunny lightheartedness without an ounce of emotional or sentimental weight. Listen to this song and flit around like a butterfly landing on a different flower each time you descend, all the time feeling the strange mix of the warmth of the sun and cool breeze of mountain tops. "Life is nothing but sheer happiness " thus sayeth the song and urges one to look in the mirror and have a good laugh at oneself and those hidden ambitions !!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was eagerly waiting for more than good response for Electric Guitar. Iam not in a positon to distinguish between electic guitar and bass guitar or for that matter any other variety of guitar.

Very word Guitar reminds me of the great guitar prelude in Andru vandhadum idhe nile, anbulla man vizhie and nalam nalam thirunalam. Nallam nallam prelude is so sweet and i do remember guitar bala played this number very well during our anniversary programme.

Most of us know that Phillip was the lead guitarist and it would be good if the forum members come to know who are the other members of the guitar team. I understand that phillip exited early 66 and can some throw light as to who replaced Phillip.

MR Ragasudha; Thanks for opening this intersting thread. While intorducing the instrument,you can also mention the name of the person who played for MM.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:41 pm    Post subject: SAROD Reply with quote



what wikipedia says:

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The sarod (or sarode) (Bengali: সরোদ) is a lutelike stringed instrument of India, used mainly in Indian classical music. Along with the sitar, it is among the most popular and prominent instruments in Hindustani (northern Indian, Bangladeshi and Pakistani) classical music. The sarod is known for a deep, weighty, introspective sound, in contrast with the sweet, overtone-rich texture of the sitar, with sympathetic strings that give it a resonant, reverberant quality. It is a fretless instrument able to produce the continuous slides between notes known as meend (glissandi), which is important to Indian music.


Read more about Sarod at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarod

And now our dear Vaidy has come up with excellent write up on Sarod. Join the discussion here:

http://www.msvtimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3002&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MSV and Sitar are inseparable combination I would emphatically say Very Happy While Vatsan mentioned on the Sitar piece in Sirippil undaagum ragathile, I am tempted to touch on the prelude to Kayyodu kai serkkum kaalangale , a marvel , a racy prelude , a mild rhythm guitar when PS does the humming . It will be like a gentle breeze ! Well well....the song's orchestration is just not confined to Sitar alone..... the endangered Accordion will be present across the song especially that lovely handing over of interlude to the 2nd charanam . What a song !!! sometime earlier, our ParthaVi ji wrote about the Yekkam that the female character brings into the song through the lyric Vendum Vendum ......somehow, this song touches my inner soul ( very much like maalai pozudhin mayakkathile ) ....
Coming back to Sitar's role in this song, even the mild piece before the Accordion takes over before the 2nd charanam itself is so mesmerising Shocked

MSV oru puriyaadha pudhir ..............
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well said Balaji.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

occasionally old paper cuttings will be included here.

A very rare still. Kannadasan trying on a bongos while MM looks on:


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonnathu nee thanna sol sol; Sitar was put to maximum use in this song. The song has a telling impact on the listener. Msv is a master in creating mood. Indha patill erukum sogam- contagious

Balaji sir, Preldue sitar - Great Speed. Sitar and Msv are inseperable. You are highlighting one more facet of Shri MSV.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

some sitar and sarod pieces from bgms follow. await
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sarod bit in the song Devan Koil Maniyosai (mentioned by Vaidy)

https://soundcloud.com/veeyaar/superb-sarod-bit-in-devan-koil
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sivasankaran Sir, SOnnadhu nee dhaana , to me, is a lesson on how to apply Sitar , the ultimate . ON a Vijay TV singer programme, singer Srinivas exclaimed that this is basically a hindustani composition and there is no par ....

Now my thoughts are on the prelude to Ennuyir thozi kel oru seidhi !

A wonderful thread opened by Raghavendran ji .Hats off Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is one of the best thread. Long after we had embarked up on a subject in which I find very active participation. Unfortunately owing to my business commitments, I could not log on for many days.

Dear Ragasuda,
Thanks for opening a nice thread. I only have one suggestion. Can we have separate thread for separate instruments. This will enable us to add all the information about the usage of the instrument in MSV songs.


Regarding Bagpiper, I wish to add the number 'Rajadhi Rajanukku' from 'Viswaroobam' a great number indeed.

Thanks again for opening a nice thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:50 pm    Post subject: Resp. Reply with quote

S. Balaji, Yes Balaji......that is a beautiful Sitar piece in "kayyOdu...." a piece of a kind. Your reference brought to my mind, the referenced song's first cousin and a favourite first cousin, "Alayam enbathu veedAgum Asai vaithhAl" from "thAmarai nenjam". Your example called for exceptional dexterity on the Sitar for those few seconds but the piece I wish to present here can be played by the average Sitar player next door, without a blemish !!! The magic is in the placement of the instrument itself within the prelude and I cant stop marveling at it !!! The prelude starts with those joyful violin passages, leading to a mix of guitar and xylophones and then the monstrous phrasing through accordians. Now, when the mood induced is apt for expressing unbounded joy, MSV decides to introduce a feeling of domesticity for that is what the song situation is all about and that is where the sitar phrases are pasted in. What explosive joy in the first part of the prelude and how sensitively without limiting it, the joy is just a wee bit "grounded", through the sitar all to indicate to the listeners that the joy is indeed being expressed within the confines of a home.....and those are sentiments of a domesticated woman. Great sensitivity !!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I only have one suggestion. Can we have separate thread for separate instruments. This will enable us to add all the information about the usage of the instrument in MSV songs.


Dear Murali,
Thanks for the appreciation.
Your suggestion is really a worthwhile one. What I thought was, if every instrument is in one thread it would be easy to refer. We can open separate threads for each instrument. But when it crosses TEN, then the earlier topics will go to next page of the index and we have to search for the instrument we are looking for. Moreover the index, will appear according to the time and date of posting and not alphabetically. These are some of the practical difficulties we will be facing while implementing your suggestion.

More when we switch to updated version of this forum structure, we can give link to the beginning post of the concerned instrument and prepare the index of instruments as a separate thread which will be more useful.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:39 pm    Post subject: Accordion Reply with quote

Accordion



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Accordions (from 19th century German Akkordion, from Akkord - "musical chord, concord of sounds" are a family of box-shaped musical instruments of the bellows-driven free-reed aerophone type, colloquially referred to as a squeezebox. A person who plays the accordion is called an accordionist. The concertina and bandoneón are related; the harmonium and American reed organ are in the same family.
The instrument is played by compressing or expanding the bellows while pressing buttons or keys, causing valves, called pallets, to open, which allow air to flow across strips of brass or steel, called reeds, that vibrate to produce sound inside the body.[notes 1]
The performer normally plays the melody on buttons or keys on the right-hand manual, and the accompaniment, consisting of bass and pre-set chord buttons, on the left-hand manual.
The accordion is often used in folk music in Europe, North America and South America, and in some countries, such as Brazil, Colombia and Mexico, it is also commonly used in mainstream pop music. In Europe and North-America, it is often associated with busking. Some popular music acts also make use of the instrument. Additionally, the accordion is sometimes used in both solo and orchestra performances of classical music.
The oldest name for this group of instruments is harmonika, from the Greek harmonikos, meaning harmonic, musical. Today, native versions of the name accordion are more common. These names refer to the type of accordion patented by Cyrill Demian, which concerned "automatically coupled chords on the bass side".


Akkord ... அக்கார்ட் என்ற ஜெர்மனியச் சொல்லின் திரிபே அக்கார்டின் அல்லது அக்கார்டியன். இசையின் கோர்வை அல்லது ஒலியின் சங்கமம் என்று கூறுகிறது விக்கிபீடியா ...

பக்கம்..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accordion
.. இதில் இந்த இசைக் கருவியைப் பற்றி பல தகவல்கள் உள்ளன.

இந்த அக்கார்டின் இசைக் கருவி மெல்லிசை மன்னரின் பாடல்களிலும் பின்னணி இசையிலும் பல படங்களில் மிகச் சிறப்பாகக் கையாளப் பட்டுள்ளது. மங்களமூர்த்தி என்கிற மாபெரும் இசைக் கலைஞர் இந்த அக்கார்டின் இசைக் கருவியை வாசிப்பதில் நிபுணர். இவருக்கென்றே தனி ரசிகர் கூட்டமும் உண்டு.

மெல்லிசை மன்னர்கள் விஸ்வநாதன்-ராம மூர்த்தி இசையமைத்த படங்களில் பாடல்களிலும், பின்னணி இசையிலும் இந்த இசைக் கருவி அருமையாக ஒலிக்கும். கேட்கக் கேட்க இனிமையக் கூட்டித் தரக் கூடிய அக்கார்டின் வாத்தியம் இடம் பெற்ற பாடல்களில் பணம் படைத்தவன் படத்தில் இடம் பெற்ற கண் போன போக்கிலே பாடல் பிரசித்தம்.

இந்த அக்கார்டின் இசைக் கருவி மெல்லிசை மன்னர்கள் இசையமைத்த படங்களிலிருந்து சில தொகுப்புகள் இங்கே இடம் பெற உள்ளன.

தொடக்கமாக பூஜைக்கு வந்த மலர் திரைப்படத்தில் வெண் பளிங்கு மேடை கட்டி பாடல் முழுதும் அக்கார்டின் இசை ஒலித்துக் கொண்டே இருக்கும். பாடல் சிறப்படைந்து கொண்டே இருக்கும். அப்பாட்டின் துவக்கத்தில் வரும் அக்கார்டின் இசையை இப்போது கேளுங்கள்.

https://soundcloud.com/veeyaar/venpalingu-accordion
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