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vaidymsv
Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 715 Location: Madras, India
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:50 pm Post subject: SAROD - THE LEGEND AMONGST INDIAN INSTRUMENTS |
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Dear All,
I am sure many would have guessed about Shehnai, Sitar, Dilruba (Sarangi), but one name has been forgotten.......SAROD.....
SAROD – A LEGEND BY ITSELF AMONGST THE INDIAN INSTRUMENTS
(Ragasudha, pse upload some images of this instrument for the benefit of our forum members)
The mere mention of this instrument will immediately roll out two of the greatest exponents of Sarod – Ustad Ali Akbar Khan & Ustad Amjad Ali Khan. Well, we have a third entity Mandolin Raju as he is fondly known in the South Indian film industry. An authority not only on Mandolin, Sarod, Konnakkol, whistling, Yodling but ultimately Santoor found it’s most favourable lap I must say….The monumental work of Late Raju in most of the MSV songs still reverberates in the ears even at this moment of me writing this small script. Late Raju was one of the most experienced and important crew of MSV’s orchestra whom I always describe as “Sakala Kala Vallavar” in every sense of it.
Now, over to the Moments of Life....… Shri. MSV & I were on our usual drive on the Beach Road and while listening to Devan Kovil Mani Osai, I came across this awesome Sarod interlude and thinking that it must have been played by some North Indian musician, I asked Shri. MSV who’s this Sarod player….He jumped out of joy and said these words which I repeat in verbatim…….”ithu yaar theriyuma…..namma mandolin raju annanthan”… I was really overwhelmed at his gesture as not only did he slip into a short nostalgia but started spontaneously acknowledging the great playing capabilities of this man.
It was all the more sad to see this Mandolin Legend pass away on April 4, 2007 while we were in a concert of Shri. MSV at the Kamaraj Arangam. MSV’s daughter called me to the back stage to inform me of his demise which was kept a secret until MSV reached his residence that night. The next day MSV called to inform me of his demise in a completely depressed mood and I couldn’t even tell him that I knew earlier.
Late. Shri. Raju will always be remembered for his great versatility in handling many portfolios of instruments with utter ease and he will always remain in our hearts…….
Listen to this monumental player unleashing the Sarod in the first interlude after the flute………….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGChKUDqAZI
CHEERS
MSV IS MUSIC!!!
VAIDYMSV
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vaidymsv
Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 715 Location: Madras, India
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Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:50 pm Post subject: SAROD - YET ANOTHER PART OF RR |
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Thank you Bhaskar. When you asked me to upload another Sarod usage, spontaneously a scene in Varumayin Niram Sigappu came as a flash. Why not, after all I saw this movie 18 times for the re-recordings alone. Especially the Sridevi bathing scene (while the world would have watched for the bath only), when Kamal Hassan knocks on the door, there is a mind boggling swara sangathis in a duet form rolls out in the background (sung by SPB & S. Janaki). I don't know how many of you have heard this. If you haven't, do it right now...
Sorry for digressing from the Sarod.....In the same movie when Kamalhassan desperately needs money he sells all his books to a waste paper vendor. While narrating his anguish at selling Bharathiyar's books, the Legend rolls out a brilliant sarod piece that will make rocks melt.
Regret unable to load this bit, but I am sure all of you have this movie in your collection. I urge you all to watch it and enjoy....
Cheers
MSV IS MUSIC!!!
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V Sivasankaran
Joined: 13 Nov 2008 Posts: 152
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Dear MR. Vaidy,
Thanks for informing about versatile Mandloin Raju. You had also mentioned that even santoor fell in the lap of MR. Raju. Among north indian instruments, santoor was subject to great use by Shri Msv.
Aminthayane nathinele from andavan kattalai
Aval oru navarasa nadagam from Ulugam suturam valiban. Santoor was played in alarming speed.
Maharajan from Karnan
Madhura nagaril from paar magale paar
Poovarium from edithayil nee.
V Sivasankaran |
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vaidymsv
Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 715 Location: Madras, India
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:21 pm Post subject: MANDOLIN..... |
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Dear Sivasankaran,
While you have mentioned some of the greatest numbers in which Santoor has been very widely used, try listening to the prelude of (original movie version of course) "Kathalikka Katru Kollungal" from Deiva Magan. I must confess that this will fall under the category of "atrocious usage" of Santoor. Listen how our Master has composed this marvel with a slow pace of Santoor that opens upto an avalanche of instruments with a fabulous yodling of Saibaba or Sadan I guess....Scintillating number indeed...
CHEERS
MSV IS MUSIC!!!
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V Sivasankaran
Joined: 13 Nov 2008 Posts: 152
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Dear MR. Vaidy,
Thanks for the information. will certainly listen and enjoy.
V Sivasankaran |
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ragasuda
Joined: 17 May 2007 Posts: 1532
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Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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what wikipedia says:
Quote: | The sarod (or sarode) (Bengali: সরোদ) is a lutelike stringed instrument of India, used mainly in Indian classical music. Along with the sitar, it is among the most popular and prominent instruments in Hindustani (northern Indian, Bangladeshi and Pakistani) classical music. The sarod is known for a deep, weighty, introspective sound, in contrast with the sweet, overtone-rich texture of the sitar, with sympathetic strings that give it a resonant, reverberant quality. It is a fretless instrument able to produce the continuous slides between notes known as meend (glissandi), which is important to Indian music. |
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Sai Saravanan
Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 630 Location: Hyderabad
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Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Sirs,
When you discussed the 'atrocious' usage of the Santoor by our master, immediately sprang the song 'Adi ennadi raakkamma pallaakku' by TMS in my mind! The usage of the term is equally attractive just as the vibrant usage of santoor for such a folk-type song!! Who else could think of such a range of instruments for such a situation! Look at all the later day folk songs of other music directors, they do not possess such an energy or orchestration, so lively, harmomious, yet unobtrusive nature of the songs of MM.
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N Y MURALI
Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Posts: 920 Location: CHENNAI
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Kudos to Vaidy for bringing up one of the hidden facet of MSV's employment of musical instrument Sarod. Having heard this number many times, I was completely out of mind to note the usage of this instrument. Who else than the versatile M S Raju, can handle such instruments.
M S Raju, Junos Sait(Sitar), Dilruba Shanmugam, Shenai Satyam added with Hanumanthappa for Tabla were the answers for MSV for unleashing Hindustani tunes and musical phrases.
And I never thought about this angle when Sai Saravanan brought the usage if this for the ever brilliant folk 'Adi yennadi Rakkamma'
Thanks to both Vaidy and Sai for bringing this gem of an information.
Being tied up to my business preoccupation I am unable to to log in for many days.
But I am thrilled that such exchanges of information are flowing on.
Please add many more.
I would request friends to discuss about the rare Thailand instrument 'Kanoo' employed for the song 'Thottal poo malarum'.
Besides I am not very sure, but one musical instrument like a small guitar (Is it Eka?) employed in the song 'Ponnai Virumbum Boomiyile"
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Vatsan
Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 352
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:04 pm Post subject: Resp. |
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Vaidy, that is a brilliant observation indeed !!!! Let me cull out other usages of Sarod.
Speaking of Santoor, my most favourite usage comes in the song 'ninaithhu pArkkirEn' sung by the inimitable Balu. The first interlude , post the guitar and the trumpet phrasing has this very difficult phrases on the santoor spread across Mridang Tabla. The second interlude has the most intriguing placement and usage of Santoor. Huge staccato phrases on the trumpets are followed by an enchanting and an undulating electric guitar piece ushering the "most western pop" feel, immediately followed by the santoor describing the same set of notes backed by Mridang Tabla banishing all traces of "Westernness" one may have felt. Great song, peerless singing and terrific orchestration makes it a song, despite its popularity as a song that received a step motherly treatment. |
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vaidymsv
Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 715 Location: Madras, India
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:31 pm Post subject: UNSUNG HERO, UNPOPULAR CREATIONS |
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Hi Vatsan,
Absolutely true. What a song...Ninaithu Paarkiren....much ahead of times like many impeccable melodies composed by our Master Creator. I think one of the biggest draw backs with HIM was that he unleashed melodies after melodies literally putting a listener in total chaos as to which one to listen to!!! The Santoor interlude followed by the mridanga tabla.....and what about the flute interlude immediately following that.....the rhythm change effected in......"nadana salaigalil" and towards the end of this charanam a "zig zag" flute again......oh...mind boggling and so happy to have observed all this during my college days.
After all I spent more time with our Legend's music than studies!! MSV Moments.....Nothing else is required to keep you alive & kicking for the rest of your life!!!
Cheers
MSV IS MUSIC!!!
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Sai Saravanan
Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 630 Location: Hyderabad
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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Dear friends,
Under this title, not only are the most wonderful instruments being discussed, the lovely usage in some of the landmark compositions of our creator are being brought out again! Who can forget 'Ninaithu paarkiraen'!! God knows how such a composition entered into our master's mind and the 'blue-eyed' boy of his compositions was roped in to give a voice to the idea! As a school boy, I was drawn to this song, again and again, every other day, when it came along with the breeze across the Palk Strait. It was truely mesmerising and really mind boggling to understand how each instrument could fit into the song so magically under his wand! Perfection in creation by the master! Which instrument to talk about in such a song?
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VaidyMSV & Sriram Lax
Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 852 Location: chennai
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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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dear friends
ragasudha opened the thread which can go for ages as far as mellisai mannar's usage of rare(in tamil)instruments . i have been wondering how this creator can think very much in advance the use of instruments
Its alright he always says he gets the tune from the lyric he gets (i should also bring to readers attention what raja said of msv's creation-MSV converts an ordinery lyric into a great hit.i do not agree with the song raja picked up as an example,but he said the truth )
our master will never accept that . one wonders what decides on choice of instruments for a particular song be it sarod .sitar or veena or type of percussion .i am not adding flute and violin tabla wantedly.
the reason is sonnathu neethaana could have gone with Veena ,why sitar karnan yes i may take it granted it was a north indian subject hence he thought of shenoy, hindutan raga etc . but why he went with shenoy in palum pazhamum so there are a lot of questions the greatest to reveal
probably ramki / vaidy can either expose this part of the creator ,since they have spent long hours with the master creator .
other wise its hightime they confronted with him with examples.
thank you let me enjoy reading what our forum pandits say _________________ vijayakrishnan |
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