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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:33 am Post subject: Attention Mr Sateesh |
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I was happy to note that you had brought out fact about the use of the tones of Besame Mucho to suit a Tamil song by The Great MSV without copying it . In the same film the intro to the song "Nenjathai Alli Konjam Tha" fits in very nicely to the song' Lambada" which came in only many years later.I tried it in a clollege culturals and I was satisfied with the effect on the audience. It gave me a chance to explain the Genius of MSV. It just tempts one to think that MSV had vision far ahead and probably some rare gift only to him, to compose songs suitable to any lilt found anywhere in the world. Hope you log into the forum. Would like to hear more from you.
Chakravarthy |
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Vatsan
Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 352
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject: H |
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manamE murganin mayilvAganam........you can create several tunes out of the swara sancharams. Hot favorite of mine. namma ooru singAri can make Hindolam blush in shyness..."Oops...nAnA ippadi......" unnidathhil has "Pa" coming in making it "Gopika Vasantham" in parts as far as the scale is concerned.
Went to Sangeetha Saraswathy award ceremony with the likes of Vaithy, Ramki, Sabesan, Mani etc where TK Ramamurthy stole the limelight in the second half of the show with his unabated expression of affection and admiration for MSV. He went on length to talk about how a MSV tune can have several ragas following one another. The example he quoted was 'pArthha gyAbagam illayO' starts with "Pa" making it Natabhairavi. The charanam starts with Gowri Manohari and ends with Sudhha Saveri. He stated all that while V Dakshinamurthy smiled in agreement. MSV as usual bowed his head, ever the recipient of blessings the right way.
Chakravarthy......trivia.......songs 'nenjathhai aLLi konjam' and 'nALam nALAm' had the tunes composed first by MSV within 30 minutes at the request of Sridhar the director. Kannadasan and MSV had been invited to join the shooting camp and Alayar dam and the above 2 songs turned out to be literally "spot" compositions. |
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baroque
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 478 Location: San jose, CA, U.S.A
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Hey SL, you are having fun! good for you!
Hi Shri.MSV,
Remember me
love, vinatha. |
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baroque
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 478 Location: San jose, CA, U.S.A
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:48 am Post subject: |
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Every time I listen to this sweet susheela solo, it makes me smile & happy. ATHAANIN MUTHANGAL........UYARNDHA MANITHANis a needed pattu break for me this tuesday evening!
Lively improvisations & perky variations in tune tempo & lilt were given with a nice alternate tabla & bongos percussions.
athaanin muthangal aththanaiyum muththukkal.....
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pattaadai moodivara pallaakku aadi varum
kannaana kannanidam sallaabum thedivarum..... What a pleasure that postlude!
Piano ludes are joyous..
Endearing mix of piano, amiable strings & true love pouring from her honey soaked postlude humming... pure heaven!
Thanks MSVTIMES - music section for the audio.
UYARNDHA MANITHAN.... wonderful album!
I return back to you tonight.....
love, Vinatha. |
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baroque
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 478 Location: San jose, CA, U.S.A
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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The outstanding folk female duet with native purity & the loving friendly spirit.
True beauty with piano,strings and rollicking flute & vocals.
Susheela & L.R.Eeswari.. bloody good as always.
Fun frisky rhythmic!
PAAYUTHU PAAYUTHU.....
P.SUSHEELA & L.R.ESWARI
LYRICS...KANNADASAN
FILM.....MANIYOSAI (1963)
pattu's vigor filled the energy I spent this long wednesday!
Vinatha. |
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S.Balaji
Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 772
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Vinatha
Athanin muthangal ..... our Ram has to write on the Piano prelude & interlude. So this will be part of his Piano series. Sowcar J will be gorgeous ! SOmehow I think of Indira Gandhi whenever I think of Sowcar ! both have majestic looks & graceful
The song is MSVish in the sense, those Piano notes are typical of MSV . |
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Ram
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 782
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Balaji..
"Athanin Muthangal" is definitely in my list for the piano series. What a great song that is!
Cheers _________________ Ramkumar |
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baroque
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 478 Location: San jose, CA, U.S.A
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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Athaanin muthangal..... Ethereal beauty, Balaji!
Melody straight goes to our heart..
Songs like paaduvor paadinaal or poova thalaiyaa....or anbey vaa works are heavy weights.
But songs like Athaanin muthangal .... are special.
MSV wants you to connect with your heart through his musical space & vanish and experience your own love & joy! Composer be there for you!
Sowgar.. she is distinguished.
vinatha. |
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vaidymsv
Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 715 Location: Madras, India
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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: Endless Piano list |
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Hey Ram,
Great going on the Piano. I listened to one of the greatest of Piano songs.... Paatondru Tharuvar Paaradiyamma from Server Sundaram. I'll tell you it's worth waiting for your write-up for an infinite period considering the lavish orchestration unleashed by MSV. Also I, Vatsan and Sabesan happened to listen to some of the greatest on the other day during the break time of the most recent of recordings we attended. The song Muthuppal Siripallavo from Pookaari was the pick of the day. Another song that I listened to was the song.... Joyful Singapore from Varuvaan Vadivelan.... As usual the MM took me on a wild trip to Malaysia & Singapore without a ticket or a visa!!!!!! You MM..... unnai enni ennai maranden
CHEERS
MSV IS MUSIC
VAIDY _________________ vaidymsv |
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baroque
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 478 Location: San jose, CA, U.S.A
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Vaidy, We never outgrow JOYFUL SINGAPORE.....Varuvaan vadivelan... What a joyous interludes with trumpet, playful violin & flute and vocal humming with distinct tune variations within a song. I was about to post in usage of violin thread. I remember watching the movie when I was young.
Gondola ski lift ride.... boating...helicopter rides picturisation, end of the song, the fellow fell accidentally into sea...
Server Sundaram pattu again usage of piano in a native folk tune.
love, vinatha. |
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S.Balaji
Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 772
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:41 am Post subject: |
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பழமுதிர் சோலையிலே தோழி
பார்த்தவன் வந்தானடி
Kuzandhayum deivamum , a movie with scintillating music
Superb tune ! Is it again that Aberi/Bhimplas genre ? Someone pls clarify |
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baroque
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 478 Location: San jose, CA, U.S.A
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Balaji, That song is indeed Abheri.
Nagumo....Thyagaraja
Ninnu vinaa....Shyama sastri
singaravelaney.....konjum salangai
vaaraayo vennilavey....missiyamma
Shri.IR's chinnanchiru vayadhil..., poovey poo chooda vaa...
Pallavi of Naadham en jeevaney... kaadhal oviyum is PURE Abheri raga bhavam, from charanam melody IR wanders away from pallavi, I think it is keeravani scale.(Not Keeravani Ragam)
Kannodu kaanbhadhellam... jeans.. ARR
telephone manipol... INDIAN - Fantastic Ragamalika.
Pallavi tele phone mani pol...is pure Ragam Abheri bhavam.
Charanam - 1 - Nee illai endral ....nee illamal ponal.... pure Ragam Anandha bhairavi bhaavam... you can nicely hop to konja naal poru thalaivaa...Deva!
I should not be taking these questions...
SL will do from now on.. |
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S.Balaji
Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 772
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Vinatha
Unga earlier Aberi discussionla pazamudhir solai Aberinu list pannala. So, my doubt . Thanks for the huge list ! |
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Ram
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 782
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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baroque wrote: |
Kannodu kaanbhadhellam... jeans.. ARR
telephone manipol... INDIAN - Fantastic Ragamalika.
Pallavi tele phone mani pol...is pure Ragam Abheri bhavam.
Charanam - 1 - Nee illai endral ....nee illamal ponal.... pure Ragam Anandha bhairavi bhaavam... you can nicely hop to konja naal poru thalaivaa...Deva!
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Do we have traces of "Suddha Dhayasi" in "Kannodu Kanbadhellam", apart from Abheri?
Telephone Manipol - Fantastic Ragamalika - agreed.
In charanam..
"Nee Illai Endral" - Anandha Bhairavi, as you mentioned.
"Vellai Nadiye" - Is this "Sankarabharanam"?
Again "Anandha Bhairavi" comes in very next line.
I've always enjoyed "Bharavi" underline in the first interlude flute in "Santhana Thenralai" from "Kandukonden"
Creative ARR!
Another fantastic "Bhairavi" by our Master MSV is from "Adisaya Ragam" - "Apoorva Ragangal". Line: "Oru Puram Paarthaal". _________________ Ramkumar |
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baroque
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 478 Location: San jose, CA, U.S.A
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Telephone manipol....INDIAN... by Rahman.
Yes, Ram, the first part of charanam - 1 is absolute ragam Aanandha bhairavi.
anandha bharavi is a janya of shankarabharanam, you encounter the phrases in vellai...
the later portion of the second charanam, my ears pick up Ragam Mohanam ambience. I rely on my ears.. I go with abheri-anandha bhairavi..ends with mohanam ragas for this composition !
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Adhisiya Raagam.....STUNNING COMPOSITION!
Only Classical prowess can compose a song of this magnitute with ease!
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Thanks Balaji...
enjoy the musicals...
Vinatha. |
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